Eidorian
Aug 25, 12:03 PM
Not if you're going for an embedded system that doesn't need a heavy duty CPU and graphics. I built a fanless home server/internet filter/firewall box for less than $200 (and this is in the mini form factor - mini-ITX). A mini would be overkill for that and almost all of the other above listed embedded applications. Get the right tool for the right job is all I'm saying. I would never use a VIA system for a desktop, but for almost every embedded application they're fantastic.With the G4 Mini's hitting $300-400 I see a better buy there. Then again I do love Mini-ITX and playing with Linux. (Free OS and good support for mini server applications.) There's an application for both. I just see the Mac mini being a"mini mac" for only a little bit more.
Folks need to be careful when making G5 to Conroe/etc. comparisons....
The PPC 970FX (single core G5 which was in the iMac G5) has a TDP below that of a Conroe.
The Conroe and Woodcrest have a TDP well below the PPC 970MP (dual core G5) which was used in the later generation PowerMac G5 systems.For some odd reason even though the 970FX has a lower TDP the Conroe systems are surprisingly cool. I've seen 50� C from Conroe under full load. That's a lot lower then the 75� C on my iMac G5.
Folks need to be careful when making G5 to Conroe/etc. comparisons....
The PPC 970FX (single core G5 which was in the iMac G5) has a TDP below that of a Conroe.
The Conroe and Woodcrest have a TDP well below the PPC 970MP (dual core G5) which was used in the later generation PowerMac G5 systems.For some odd reason even though the 970FX has a lower TDP the Conroe systems are surprisingly cool. I've seen 50� C from Conroe under full load. That's a lot lower then the 75� C on my iMac G5.

daneoni
Aug 29, 09:26 AM
Very predictable. Just release the darn thing already!
DoFoT9
Mar 21, 04:17 PM
I guess I'm number 1 on the team now :cool:
your electricity bill must be outrageous!
what do you do?
your electricity bill must be outrageous!
what do you do?
mdriftmeyer
Apr 2, 10:47 PM
Since so many of the units purchased in the last two weeks are destined for resale overseas (read the Asian scalper threads) have not even made it into the hands of the end-user, you have no idea how many will be returned.
No need to thank me for pointing out the obvious to you and your fellow apologists.
When Apple has their Quarterly press conference expect the iPad 2 to list 4+ million or more sales with back orders in the millions.
The return rate of all Apple products, across all of their hardware lines are lowest in the entire industry.
The iPhone 4 fiasco had a return rate half of that of the iPhone 3GS that everyone loved.
iPad return rate is at 2%: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20030211-37.html
Look to that being at or lower for the iPad 2.
No need to thank me for pointing out the obvious to you and your fellow apologists.
When Apple has their Quarterly press conference expect the iPad 2 to list 4+ million or more sales with back orders in the millions.
The return rate of all Apple products, across all of their hardware lines are lowest in the entire industry.
The iPhone 4 fiasco had a return rate half of that of the iPhone 3GS that everyone loved.
iPad return rate is at 2%: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20030211-37.html
Look to that being at or lower for the iPad 2.
LagunaSol
Apr 2, 09:56 PM
I'll "believe" when they fix the currently unresolved and widespread quality control issues...light bleed on virtually every unit
Apparently "virtually every" doesn't mean what you think it means.
Apparently "virtually every" doesn't mean what you think it means.
twoodcc
Jan 30, 11:23 PM
My last electric bill was $299 and change! A lot of that was because its been so damned cold (and my little old house has no insulation in the walls), colder and more snow than in many years. Folding uses power but helps with the heating :p now if I could just get those gpu's to glow a little brighter red I could turn off the furnace...
And congrats to everyone for keeping up and making points!
Hey, mc68k I might catch up... soon :D
I wonder if some people have moved to other teams? Maybe they start out with us but find another team that that appeals more to them?? I've thought about jumping to Dawkins team but it would take awhile to get where I am here so I will stay, for now at least :eek:
dang, that's a big bill! but my $190 is for a 2 room apartment!
i think some people started to leave or just quit, and then so people thought why stay with this dead team, and then leave also. i'll probably stay with this group, but we'll see
And congrats to everyone for keeping up and making points!
Hey, mc68k I might catch up... soon :D
I wonder if some people have moved to other teams? Maybe they start out with us but find another team that that appeals more to them?? I've thought about jumping to Dawkins team but it would take awhile to get where I am here so I will stay, for now at least :eek:
dang, that's a big bill! but my $190 is for a 2 room apartment!
i think some people started to leave or just quit, and then so people thought why stay with this dead team, and then leave also. i'll probably stay with this group, but we'll see
takao
Mar 4, 06:12 PM
But not the brand image... that could perhaps be the biggest stumbling block of all, it certainly is in Europe anyway.
Personally... I don't think GM have a clue, and that's one of the reasons why they got themselves into one almighty hell of a mess, and only time will tell if they can get themselves out of it. I'm still of the opinion that GM's decision to attempt to introduce Chevrolet into the European market will ultimately prove futile.
the Daewoo -> Chevrolet re-branding in europe has been more or less the best business move GM has made perhaps in the last decade
with every "had been Daewoo" model getting replaced over the years sales picked up ... even more so in eastern europe
sure their styling isn't bold o nthe interieur and on the front of the cars very US taste like but i suspect the korean Chevrolet brand is the safest in their whole portfolio
what is really their big trainwreck is still Opel. Their "bail us out ... no wait .. yeah bail us out .. not on your conditions .. we are ready to sign the deal any minute .. except we are not" theather they played with the german government tarnished their brand for years to coem especially in the heads of workers and lower middle class
their bread-n-butter models Astra and Corsa has just been upgraded but as soon as "cash for clunkers" programs ended their sales tanked hard
especially as opel lacks any brand positioning at all: are they a cheap brand or a premium brand, a sporty one or a comforty one ? Opel as all over the place and tries to sell cars in every space possible
which is in a contrast to the japanese/korean brands which in europe over the last few years streamlined a lot: nearly all brands stopped offering premium sedans or upper market offerings and rather concentrated on SUVs/ crossovers and small offroaders and small minivans, compacts or small hatchbacks
just try looking for an affordable coupe-sedan styled car... or any other 'sporty' looking car below 25.000 euro which isn't a hatchback
Personally... I don't think GM have a clue, and that's one of the reasons why they got themselves into one almighty hell of a mess, and only time will tell if they can get themselves out of it. I'm still of the opinion that GM's decision to attempt to introduce Chevrolet into the European market will ultimately prove futile.
the Daewoo -> Chevrolet re-branding in europe has been more or less the best business move GM has made perhaps in the last decade
with every "had been Daewoo" model getting replaced over the years sales picked up ... even more so in eastern europe
sure their styling isn't bold o nthe interieur and on the front of the cars very US taste like but i suspect the korean Chevrolet brand is the safest in their whole portfolio
what is really their big trainwreck is still Opel. Their "bail us out ... no wait .. yeah bail us out .. not on your conditions .. we are ready to sign the deal any minute .. except we are not" theather they played with the german government tarnished their brand for years to coem especially in the heads of workers and lower middle class
their bread-n-butter models Astra and Corsa has just been upgraded but as soon as "cash for clunkers" programs ended their sales tanked hard
especially as opel lacks any brand positioning at all: are they a cheap brand or a premium brand, a sporty one or a comforty one ? Opel as all over the place and tries to sell cars in every space possible
which is in a contrast to the japanese/korean brands which in europe over the last few years streamlined a lot: nearly all brands stopped offering premium sedans or upper market offerings and rather concentrated on SUVs/ crossovers and small offroaders and small minivans, compacts or small hatchbacks
just try looking for an affordable coupe-sedan styled car... or any other 'sporty' looking car below 25.000 euro which isn't a hatchback
thejadedmonkey
Aug 7, 07:07 AM
-Soltaire game as a dashboard widget
Yes! Take Solitare, the number 1 Windows game, and make it even easier to keep hidden when your boss walks by!:D
Yes! Take Solitare, the number 1 Windows game, and make it even easier to keep hidden when your boss walks by!:D
azentropy
Sep 15, 08:34 AM
Right, and what Apple has proposed doing is very reasonable. They have a product that works well for the majority of users.
CR disagrees. So if a product works most of the time for most people that is good enough to recommend? They are saying they don't recommend it.
Meanwhile they are going to alter the design of the phone so that even this issue will go away for future models.
Which does not affect this model, so they should change their recommendation based on what future models may or may not fix?
What does CR want? A total recall? For what? Most people have no issue, there is no danger, the few people who have the issue get a free solution, what would be the point of doing it any other way?
In order for them to recommend it, yes. Or at least include the case at time of purchase. They have stated this.
Auto manufacturers publicize the issue, make a solution possible, but it's up to the car's owner to approach the dealership to get that free solution. CR sez this is a good thing.
Apple publicizes the issue, makes a solution possible, but it's up to the phone's owner to approach Apple to get that free solution. CR sez this is unacceptable.
No, you are missing the point. Yes auto manufactures have recalls all the time and yes the customer has to come in to get it fixed on previous purchases. HOWEVER, they also fix all NEW automobiles before continue to sell to new customers. Apple isn't doing that, and that is CR's complaint.
CR disagrees. So if a product works most of the time for most people that is good enough to recommend? They are saying they don't recommend it.
Meanwhile they are going to alter the design of the phone so that even this issue will go away for future models.
Which does not affect this model, so they should change their recommendation based on what future models may or may not fix?
What does CR want? A total recall? For what? Most people have no issue, there is no danger, the few people who have the issue get a free solution, what would be the point of doing it any other way?
In order for them to recommend it, yes. Or at least include the case at time of purchase. They have stated this.
Auto manufacturers publicize the issue, make a solution possible, but it's up to the car's owner to approach the dealership to get that free solution. CR sez this is a good thing.
Apple publicizes the issue, makes a solution possible, but it's up to the phone's owner to approach Apple to get that free solution. CR sez this is unacceptable.
No, you are missing the point. Yes auto manufactures have recalls all the time and yes the customer has to come in to get it fixed on previous purchases. HOWEVER, they also fix all NEW automobiles before continue to sell to new customers. Apple isn't doing that, and that is CR's complaint.
Stella
Jun 24, 08:46 AM
We hope, Jobs said - many different iOS products later this year...
In other words:
Many more locked down products this year
:p
In other words:
Many more locked down products this year
:p
kobyh15
Apr 2, 09:39 PM
Just saw it on tv. Fantastic.

MattyMac
Sep 7, 10:11 AM
5 more days!
SuperCachetes
Mar 22, 12:16 PM
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MikhailT
Apr 10, 10:35 AM
I don't understand why everyone seems to dislike the "new" iCal so much. Clearly, it was adopted by iPad iOS at first and now by Mac OS X Lion. Nothing new here. Nothing unexpected.
I don't remember people disliking/complaining about the iCal look on iPad at all. I tell ya, people complain just for the sake of complaining. What a crowd. :rolleyes:It doesn't look exactly the same on the iPad and an interface tuned to iOS shouldn't be used in the same away on the desktop. You can be creative with the interface controls and so on but this is too far. The colors are too distracting and much *brighter* than the one used on the iPad.
The problem that I have is that Apple seems to breaking away from their Human Interface Guidelines that every developers on the Macs platform follows. The sooner they do this, the more likely the third party apps are going to not follow it either. If every apps looks completely different, then it's going to be harder to get used to how things work on the Mac platform. Consistency is the number 1 thing that Mac OS X does successfully and if we break away from it, it's going to look ugly overnight.
I don't think people are complaining for the sake of complaining, in this case, they have a valid reason to. Not only is it look completely different, it can be distracting when you're used to all metal theme on OS X and you can't choose to disable this interface.
IMO, it's distracting, ugly and I want an option to turn this off. Otherwise, I'd just wait for a third-party app with a better interface and/or hacks to enable the *Aqua* theme.
I don't remember people disliking/complaining about the iCal look on iPad at all. I tell ya, people complain just for the sake of complaining. What a crowd. :rolleyes:It doesn't look exactly the same on the iPad and an interface tuned to iOS shouldn't be used in the same away on the desktop. You can be creative with the interface controls and so on but this is too far. The colors are too distracting and much *brighter* than the one used on the iPad.
The problem that I have is that Apple seems to breaking away from their Human Interface Guidelines that every developers on the Macs platform follows. The sooner they do this, the more likely the third party apps are going to not follow it either. If every apps looks completely different, then it's going to be harder to get used to how things work on the Mac platform. Consistency is the number 1 thing that Mac OS X does successfully and if we break away from it, it's going to look ugly overnight.
I don't think people are complaining for the sake of complaining, in this case, they have a valid reason to. Not only is it look completely different, it can be distracting when you're used to all metal theme on OS X and you can't choose to disable this interface.
IMO, it's distracting, ugly and I want an option to turn this off. Otherwise, I'd just wait for a third-party app with a better interface and/or hacks to enable the *Aqua* theme.
Otaillon
Nov 23, 08:59 PM
http://www.ciclismototale.it/c-buy/053-POP-MATANY2010.jpg
milo
Sep 6, 05:50 PM
Really confused as to why they just didn't skip to Core2.
Supply constraints, and intel is probably selling apple the yonahs cheaper than meroms.
Supply constraints, and intel is probably selling apple the yonahs cheaper than meroms.
SciTeach
Nov 15, 08:26 AM
How long before it ends up in the MacBook Pro?
(joking)
The heck with the MacBook Pro.....how about the Mac MINI!!!
:p ;) :D
(joking)
The heck with the MacBook Pro.....how about the Mac MINI!!!
:p ;) :D

skunk
Mar 21, 05:05 PM
I think this would be conterproductive to the end result though.Oh, the Humanity!
sineplex
Sep 19, 01:57 AM
Nope, it's those 99 cents silicone case from HK!
ok sounds great. post a link I'll buy that for 99c until I find something I really like.
BTW What camera did you use to take the shot ? Makes it look much more than 99c
ok sounds great. post a link I'll buy that for 99c until I find something I really like.
BTW What camera did you use to take the shot ? Makes it look much more than 99c
macidiot
Jul 20, 02:00 PM
Just to give some more figures - Gartner says worldwide PC sales are 55 million compared to 49.5 million this time last year, and 16.6 million in the US compared to 15.6 million last year.
But I wonder where they got 766,000 from. The sales figures separate out retail from regional sales, but considering that most Apple stores are in the US, the vast majority of the 216,000 retail sales would be in the US, so US sales could be anything between 642,000-858,000. That's 3.9%-5.2% US market share. Looks like they picked a percentage right in the middle, but I would say it's nearer to 5%. Of course, worldwide it's still only 2.4%.
To put this in perspective, Dell sold 9.73 million PC worldwide and 5.3 million in the US, ie. 7x Apple's shipments.
According to Gartner, Apple US marketshare last quarter was 4.8%.
But I wonder where they got 766,000 from. The sales figures separate out retail from regional sales, but considering that most Apple stores are in the US, the vast majority of the 216,000 retail sales would be in the US, so US sales could be anything between 642,000-858,000. That's 3.9%-5.2% US market share. Looks like they picked a percentage right in the middle, but I would say it's nearer to 5%. Of course, worldwide it's still only 2.4%.
To put this in perspective, Dell sold 9.73 million PC worldwide and 5.3 million in the US, ie. 7x Apple's shipments.
According to Gartner, Apple US marketshare last quarter was 4.8%.
Paul Graham
Feb 6, 04:38 PM
As a person who owns 2 MK4 VWs and who's 4 closest friends drive MK4 Jettas, I'd never want to be associated with that.
This is how you make a MK4 look nice:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4794436687_2a531d48e5_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4794433771_2a2014c124_b.jpg
Just have to wait for the snow to go away to mount my r32 sideskirts and get my spacers on the wheels.
It was an example dude and... Each to their own eh?
Anyway, Mine would be done differently as me and my bro are somewhat perfectionists!
But That's the style I like - aka Euro/German Style.
Smaller rims on stretched low profile rubber, Debadged, Smoothed, De-seamed, Dropped/Slammed/Lowered ( w/e you wanna go with lol )
NO spoiler, A nice paint job and smokey tinted windows ( NOT fully tinted lol )
And personally, I'm going to install a more Audiophile based stereo rather than a full on ice install.
I'ld rather have a lovely crisp, Natural sounding system that provides just enough bass to compliment what's coming through the component speakers.
That Bora looks lovely by the way, Looks like its in mint condition from here.
This is how you make a MK4 look nice:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4794436687_2a531d48e5_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4794433771_2a2014c124_b.jpg
Just have to wait for the snow to go away to mount my r32 sideskirts and get my spacers on the wheels.
It was an example dude and... Each to their own eh?
Anyway, Mine would be done differently as me and my bro are somewhat perfectionists!
But That's the style I like - aka Euro/German Style.
Smaller rims on stretched low profile rubber, Debadged, Smoothed, De-seamed, Dropped/Slammed/Lowered ( w/e you wanna go with lol )
NO spoiler, A nice paint job and smokey tinted windows ( NOT fully tinted lol )
And personally, I'm going to install a more Audiophile based stereo rather than a full on ice install.
I'ld rather have a lovely crisp, Natural sounding system that provides just enough bass to compliment what's coming through the component speakers.
That Bora looks lovely by the way, Looks like its in mint condition from here.
DouchGod
Nov 24, 02:53 AM
Building myself a new computer:
Asus Crosshair IV Formula AMD 890FX (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/images/electronics/Crosshair-IV-Formula.jpg
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=300&uid=2261268837
AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1055T 2.80GHz
http://static.letsbuyit.com/filer/images/uk/products/original/201/7/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1055t-six-core-processor-2-80-ghz-9mb-cache-socket-am3-125w-45-nm-3-year-war-20107372.jpeg
G.Skill RipJaw 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit
http://p.gzhls.at/466065.jpg
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit - OEM
http://www.gttkc.com/shop/images/7professional.jpeg
NZXT Phantom Enthusiast Full Tower Case - Black
http://www.thebitbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/phantom_black_blue_LED2.jpg
2* Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM
http://www.awd-it.co.uk/ProdImages/3438_Samsung_Spinpoint_F1_HD753LJ_750GB_SATA_II_32MB_Cache_-_OEM_xl.jpg
Currently sat waiting for it to be delivered.....
Asus Crosshair IV Formula AMD 890FX (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard
http://www.alphacity.co.nz/images/electronics/Crosshair-IV-Formula.jpg
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=300&uid=2261268837
AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1055T 2.80GHz
http://static.letsbuyit.com/filer/images/uk/products/original/201/7/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1055t-six-core-processor-2-80-ghz-9mb-cache-socket-am3-125w-45-nm-3-year-war-20107372.jpeg
G.Skill RipJaw 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit
http://p.gzhls.at/466065.jpg
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit - OEM
http://www.gttkc.com/shop/images/7professional.jpeg
NZXT Phantom Enthusiast Full Tower Case - Black
http://www.thebitbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/phantom_black_blue_LED2.jpg
2* Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM
http://www.awd-it.co.uk/ProdImages/3438_Samsung_Spinpoint_F1_HD753LJ_750GB_SATA_II_32MB_Cache_-_OEM_xl.jpg
Currently sat waiting for it to be delivered.....
aiqw9182
Mar 25, 09:17 AM
Why doesn't the IGP have OpenCL support?
Because the Sandy Bridge IGP was not designed to do any sort of GPGPU work, point blank. We will have to wait for Ivy Bridge(next major release from Intel after Sandy Bridge) for GPGPU/OpenCL support on Intel's IGP.
Because the Sandy Bridge IGP was not designed to do any sort of GPGPU work, point blank. We will have to wait for Ivy Bridge(next major release from Intel after Sandy Bridge) for GPGPU/OpenCL support on Intel's IGP.
clientsiman
Mar 31, 12:56 PM
iCal looks really awful. I hope to change it again int he next developer preview.