MrFirework
Nov 15, 10:25 AM
How long before it ends up in the MacBook Pro?
(joking)
Thank GOD that "joking" is in there.
::to myself:: calm... calm... 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1.... calm...
(joking)
Thank GOD that "joking" is in there.
::to myself:: calm... calm... 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1.... calm...
theBB
Jul 19, 04:33 PM
This is actually the general trend in the computer market since the rise of
portables against desktop machines. Portables are becoming increasingly
powerful (computational-wise) up to the point that the line between them
and Desktops is blurred.
Yes, laptops are getting more popular, but I don't remember other companies losing 23% of desktop sales in one year. I guess Apple sells few computers to companies who might be buying a bigger share of desktops nowadays, but still...
portables against desktop machines. Portables are becoming increasingly
powerful (computational-wise) up to the point that the line between them
and Desktops is blurred.
Yes, laptops are getting more popular, but I don't remember other companies losing 23% of desktop sales in one year. I guess Apple sells few computers to companies who might be buying a bigger share of desktops nowadays, but still...
APPLENEWBIE
Aug 29, 05:02 PM
(Agreed. They need to get that bottom end of the price range covered so that there are options for everyone including students.)
Yes indeed. As noted above, the mac mini is a great gateway drug. It allows people to get in and experiment cheaply. That is what happened in my case. If the entry point were near $1k, I might not have switched.
Yes indeed. As noted above, the mac mini is a great gateway drug. It allows people to get in and experiment cheaply. That is what happened in my case. If the entry point were near $1k, I might not have switched.
Dr.Gargoyle
Aug 29, 11:31 AM
My dream mini has a HD-DVD player, HDMI/DVI out, optical audio out (mainly important for those that want to connect to a surround sound receiver) and add some Netflix-like movie download subscription service added to iTunes. Put those together with space for a 3.5" hard drive and run Front Row 2.0 and I'd be psyched.
I really want the Mac Mini to be a basic TV hub device. It doesn't have to have a DVR, cable card slots or TV tuners built-in. Sure, if Apple could build an all-in-one box that's better than my HR10-250 (HD Tivo for DirecTV) or the upcoming Series 3 from Tivo that would be great. But for now I'd be happy with one box for TV watching (HR10-250) and one box for everything else (DVDs, music, movie downloading, casual web surfing).
I would like to see a "media center" with a basic built-in TV-tuner so I could use it as a TIVO. It cant be that hard to add a TV-tuner...
I really want the Mac Mini to be a basic TV hub device. It doesn't have to have a DVR, cable card slots or TV tuners built-in. Sure, if Apple could build an all-in-one box that's better than my HR10-250 (HD Tivo for DirecTV) or the upcoming Series 3 from Tivo that would be great. But for now I'd be happy with one box for TV watching (HR10-250) and one box for everything else (DVDs, music, movie downloading, casual web surfing).
I would like to see a "media center" with a basic built-in TV-tuner so I could use it as a TIVO. It cant be that hard to add a TV-tuner...
jgould
Feb 22, 07:15 PM
Couldn't afford an iMac just yet so I'm using I have my Mac Book Pro 13" hooked up to an HP w2207 monitor!
How are you managing your cables behind the BookArc? I just picked one up and am doing what I've been doing for years: A binder clip with everything except the display cable attached to it. I wish I could find a Mini DisplayPort to DVI cable, but those don't seem to exist.
I'm going to post a new picture of my desk shortly.
How are you managing your cables behind the BookArc? I just picked one up and am doing what I've been doing for years: A binder clip with everything except the display cable attached to it. I wish I could find a Mini DisplayPort to DVI cable, but those don't seem to exist.
I'm going to post a new picture of my desk shortly.
appleguy123
Mar 19, 05:12 PM
Have you not been informed of DisgraceBook??
No, and I just googled it and it appears to be just a product review site?
To what are you referring?
No, and I just googled it and it appears to be just a product review site?
To what are you referring?
tktaylor1
Feb 5, 02:09 PM
2002 Audi A4. 18th birthday present
timswim78
Aug 30, 09:58 PM
I don't think that is always the case. In this case, specifically, we are likely looking at the high end mini bumping down to the low end price range, and the high end being a new machine. That would meant that the high end mini is basically getting a price drop, which would push the refurb price down: the refurb Core Duo mini is currently MORE than a new Core Solo. I'd definitely expect to see Duos get a price drop in the refurb store if the new mini line up is 1.66 duo and 1.83 duo.
It will be interesting to see how Apple stocks and prices the refurb store once the new chips are in the Intel machines. I have noticed less and less PPC refurbs for iMacs and Minis. I guess that Apple is holding onto them in order to replace PPC machines that go bad while under warranty.
It will be interesting to see how Apple stocks and prices the refurb store once the new chips are in the Intel machines. I have noticed less and less PPC refurbs for iMacs and Minis. I guess that Apple is holding onto them in order to replace PPC machines that go bad while under warranty.
kadajawi
Sep 6, 10:13 AM
The 24" iMac can be upgraded to a 7600GT video card. Anyone know how decent that is? What about the x1600?
Somewhat decent, a bit faster than the 6600GT, less power consumption IIRC. Just look out for normal reviews in the PC territory, that should give you an idea. I think it would be a decent choice in a sub-$1000 computer... over that I'd be expecting something better. Still, the 6600GT which I have is pretty decent, can play most games at a good resolution and high quality settings.
I'm going to buy the basic Mini... the size makes the difference, since it's going to be used at different locations (every few months in a different country ;) ). A superdrive would be nice, but not neccessary.
Anyone knows if student discount and the "free printer" works with refurbs too?
Somewhat decent, a bit faster than the 6600GT, less power consumption IIRC. Just look out for normal reviews in the PC territory, that should give you an idea. I think it would be a decent choice in a sub-$1000 computer... over that I'd be expecting something better. Still, the 6600GT which I have is pretty decent, can play most games at a good resolution and high quality settings.
I'm going to buy the basic Mini... the size makes the difference, since it's going to be used at different locations (every few months in a different country ;) ). A superdrive would be nice, but not neccessary.
Anyone knows if student discount and the "free printer" works with refurbs too?
arkitect
Mar 24, 12:51 PM
You weren't born gay, you chose to be gay.
Oh FFS!!! :rolleyes:
How many times more are we going to have to argue this?
It is not a choice.
I no more chose to be gay than you chose to be straight.
Christ! Sometimes this forum reminds me of a Whack the Mole game� hit one on the head and another pops up.
Same stuff over and over�
Oh FFS!!! :rolleyes:
How many times more are we going to have to argue this?
It is not a choice.
I no more chose to be gay than you chose to be straight.
Christ! Sometimes this forum reminds me of a Whack the Mole game� hit one on the head and another pops up.
Same stuff over and over�
Lollypop
Aug 7, 05:40 AM
Finish work at 5.30pm - 1 hour of 5-a-side footy (6.00 - 7.00pm) - drive home, eat & shower by 7.30pm - turn on Mac, log into MacRumors (hopefully it'll be running!) - and laugh at all you silly bugger's who have to spend �1000's on a new Mac and display :p
It is funny reading about how people all of a sudden HAVE to get something, or are upset about how their investment is now worthless or if apple will let them exchange their recently bouth XXX for the new model. :rolleyes:
I would love to be able to see some of the demos of leopard, I expect a lot of it, and screenshots wont work this time!
It is funny reading about how people all of a sudden HAVE to get something, or are upset about how their investment is now worthless or if apple will let them exchange their recently bouth XXX for the new model. :rolleyes:
I would love to be able to see some of the demos of leopard, I expect a lot of it, and screenshots wont work this time!
iBug2
May 2, 06:03 PM
So you're saying we should go back to Mac OS Classic cooperative multi-tasking ?
Hello ?
The 80s called, they want their computing paradigms back. Cooperative multi-tasking makes sense on ressource limited architectures. Even the iPhone/iPad like devices are far from "ressource limited". We had pre-emptive multi-tasking on much less capable devices (think 386s with 8 MB of RAM).
Obviously the guy you replied to did not know anything he was talking about. Apple's resume function on Lion does not break the multitasking we have on SL anyway and it's just a nice addition.
Hello ?
The 80s called, they want their computing paradigms back. Cooperative multi-tasking makes sense on ressource limited architectures. Even the iPhone/iPad like devices are far from "ressource limited". We had pre-emptive multi-tasking on much less capable devices (think 386s with 8 MB of RAM).
Obviously the guy you replied to did not know anything he was talking about. Apple's resume function on Lion does not break the multitasking we have on SL anyway and it's just a nice addition.
lordonuthin
Apr 30, 02:51 PM
Congrats to 4JNA for 6 million points!
mysteria
Apr 3, 03:20 AM
Fullscreen flash videos in Safari are finally without menu bar bug.
iKwick7
Sep 1, 12:03 PM
If this does come out, looks like I'll be selling my Macbook. :)
reflex
Aug 25, 01:51 PM
And Apple doesn't like to be selling historical artifacts any longer than they must
So that's why they stuck with G3s in iBooks for so long? :p
So that's why they stuck with G3s in iBooks for so long? :p
SciFrog
Nov 18, 05:25 PM
It is almost becoming that unless you do bigadv units, why bother...
The top end iMac now gets as much as 7 times the top previous generation iMac...
The top end iMac now gets as much as 7 times the top previous generation iMac...
MacRumors
Jan 1, 05:09 PM
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With Macworld San Francisco (MWSF) quickly approaching, MacRumors provides this Rumor Roundup as a summary of major rumors circulating around the Mac Web before the big event. (Previous MacRumors MWSF roundups: 2006 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060105230546.shtml), 2005 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/01/20050110022542.shtml), 2004 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/01/20040101213714.shtml), 2003 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030104183532.shtml), and 2002 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/01/20020106151501.shtml).)
While Apple's popularity continues to rise, the media coverage for Apple rumors reached an all time high this year.
Apple Phone (or Not?)
The one rumor that has received the greatest exposure is, of course, the Apple branded phone (formerly the iPhone (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061218064022.shtml)). Talk of an Apple-branded cell phone has been ongoing for years, however.
In when asked directly (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020911210852.shtml) "Will there be an iPhone?", Steve Jobs replied "One never knows. We don't usually discuss products we haven't announced." In when questioned again about an Apple phone, Steve Jobs stated (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/05/20030529030024.shtml) that they did not "feel they could add much value to current cell phones."
The Apple Phone rumor flickered to life again in February 2006 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060203203837.shtml) when research group UBS said "not to rule out an Apple-branded cell phone later this year". PiperJaffray made a bolder statement (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060317152445.shtml) in March 2006 with a 75% chance of a iPhone in the next 12 months. Similar claims came from a J.P. Morgan analyst (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060319140832.shtml) that "chatter about the [Apple Phone] is all over the food chain".
What finally triggered worldwide attention can be traced back to this Commercial Times report (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/11/20061115090741.shtml) that Taiwan's Hon Hai has received a 12 million unit contract for the rumored Apple phone to be released in the first half of 2007. While regular MacRumors readers might realize that these Taiwanese supply reports have been wrong in the past, the proposed time-frame correlated (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060915182716.shtml) with an earlier ThinkSecret report also pointing to "early 2007" for the release. As well, a reliable MacRumors source provided a description (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060913215342.shtml) (and artist rendition) of what one of the existing prototype phones looked like at that time.
The first detailed specs came from Kevin Rose (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061203094854.shtml) who had been previously known (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060110081233.shtml) to have some inside information. Other (conflicting) claims/specs are also listed here:
- 2GB ($249), 4GB ($449), Slide out keyboard, "cool" OS, All Phone providers (Kevin Rose (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061203094854.shtml))
- 4GB ($599), 8GB ($649), Metal, Cingular Wireless, Full screen LCD, Virtual Click Wheel (Morgan Stanley analyst (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061213162456.shtml))
- GSM/EDGE device only (ThinkSecret (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061215091228.shtml))
While many news outlets are pointing towards Macworld San Francisco as the launch date of the Apple Phone, none of the more credible rumors have specifically pointed to Macworld as the launch day for the device:
- 1st half of 2007 (1 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/11/20061115090741.shtml), 2 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060915182716.shtml), 3 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061205105051.shtml), 4 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061213162456.shtml))
- Not at Macworld SF (1 (http://www.theage.com.au/news/phones--pdas/iphone-could-be-put-on-hold/2006/12/11/1165685598310.html?from=rss))
- January (1 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061203094854.shtml))
- Macworld San Francisco (0)
While nothing would preclude Apple from announcing a phone at Macworld for a later launch, the evidence for a Macworld launch remains mostly speculative.
Mac Pro
Appleinsider suggested in October (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061025231946.shtml) that an 8-Core Mac Pro was ready to launch as early as November 2006. While this did not take place, an upcoming 2.0GHz quad-core chip (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2326) due in January will be priced at a reasonable $690/chip, similar to the current 2.66GHz dual-core Woodcrest that is currently offered in Mac Pros.
A recent Macscoop report (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061229234528.shtml) claimed that the 8-core Mac would be on track for a January release.
iTV
Apple surprised many when they revealed the iTV in September (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060912161621.shtml) at the "Showtime" media event. The $299 device offers a living room appliance that interfaces your media content to your television. A brief overview was provided, but the final shipping product was not promised until the first quarter of 2007.
Many expect Apple will provide more details of the iTV at Macworld.
Leopard
Leopard was first previewed (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060807161421.shtml) in August, revealing Time Machine, Spaces, Core Animation, and more (http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/).
Over the following months, only a few additional features have been revealed (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061024174114.shtml), and no word of the "secret" features Apple has held back from their public preview.
The latest minor feature revealed has been the use of XAR (http://macgeek.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2006/12/30/macos-x-10-5-new-package-format-xar.html) for Leopard's package format.
Apple would likely demonstrate Leopard again at Macworld San Francisco, but the final release is not expected until "Spring 2007".
New Displays
Some sporadic reports (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061222114846.shtml) of new displays have been distributed, but have been tainted by claims that they represent efforts to intentionally spread false information to rumor sites. As such, these rumors should be viewed with skepticism.
iLife '07
Unlike most Apple updates, the iLife suite has seen regular yearly updates released at the Macworld San Francisco expo. iWork '07 has been said to include (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061011213410.shtml) significant updates to Keynote and Pages as well as the introduction of a new spreadsheet application code named "Lasso".
Video iPod, and Others?
Surprisingly, little attention has been given to the rumored full Video iPod despite clear evidence (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061026073133.shtml) that Apple has been considering such a form factor. The latest word has placed the device in the early 2007 timeframe (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061018143033.shtml).
Three new iPod models were said to be in the works (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061207145756.shtml) for but not necessarily at Macworld.
Summary
Surprisingly few Macworld San Francisco specific rumors have emerged this year in the months leading up to the event. This final week, however, always represents a busy time for rumors with last minute leaks common.
If you would like to meet up with other MacRumors members, this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=256873) lists others going to the event.
No live Quicktime stream is typically available for the keynote event. Instead, we will provide live coverage of the event at MacRumorsLive.com (http://www.macrumorslive.com/). The keynote takes place at 9am Pacific time on January 9th, 2007.
[[ digg this (http://digg.com/apple/Macworld_San_Francisco_2007_Rumor_Roundup) ]]
With Macworld San Francisco (MWSF) quickly approaching, MacRumors provides this Rumor Roundup as a summary of major rumors circulating around the Mac Web before the big event. (Previous MacRumors MWSF roundups: 2006 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060105230546.shtml), 2005 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/01/20050110022542.shtml), 2004 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/01/20040101213714.shtml), 2003 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030104183532.shtml), and 2002 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/01/20020106151501.shtml).)
While Apple's popularity continues to rise, the media coverage for Apple rumors reached an all time high this year.
Apple Phone (or Not?)
The one rumor that has received the greatest exposure is, of course, the Apple branded phone (formerly the iPhone (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061218064022.shtml)). Talk of an Apple-branded cell phone has been ongoing for years, however.
In when asked directly (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/09/20020911210852.shtml) "Will there be an iPhone?", Steve Jobs replied "One never knows. We don't usually discuss products we haven't announced." In when questioned again about an Apple phone, Steve Jobs stated (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/05/20030529030024.shtml) that they did not "feel they could add much value to current cell phones."
The Apple Phone rumor flickered to life again in February 2006 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060203203837.shtml) when research group UBS said "not to rule out an Apple-branded cell phone later this year". PiperJaffray made a bolder statement (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060317152445.shtml) in March 2006 with a 75% chance of a iPhone in the next 12 months. Similar claims came from a J.P. Morgan analyst (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/03/20060319140832.shtml) that "chatter about the [Apple Phone] is all over the food chain".
What finally triggered worldwide attention can be traced back to this Commercial Times report (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/11/20061115090741.shtml) that Taiwan's Hon Hai has received a 12 million unit contract for the rumored Apple phone to be released in the first half of 2007. While regular MacRumors readers might realize that these Taiwanese supply reports have been wrong in the past, the proposed time-frame correlated (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060915182716.shtml) with an earlier ThinkSecret report also pointing to "early 2007" for the release. As well, a reliable MacRumors source provided a description (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060913215342.shtml) (and artist rendition) of what one of the existing prototype phones looked like at that time.
The first detailed specs came from Kevin Rose (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061203094854.shtml) who had been previously known (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/01/20060110081233.shtml) to have some inside information. Other (conflicting) claims/specs are also listed here:
- 2GB ($249), 4GB ($449), Slide out keyboard, "cool" OS, All Phone providers (Kevin Rose (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061203094854.shtml))
- 4GB ($599), 8GB ($649), Metal, Cingular Wireless, Full screen LCD, Virtual Click Wheel (Morgan Stanley analyst (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061213162456.shtml))
- GSM/EDGE device only (ThinkSecret (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061215091228.shtml))
While many news outlets are pointing towards Macworld San Francisco as the launch date of the Apple Phone, none of the more credible rumors have specifically pointed to Macworld as the launch day for the device:
- 1st half of 2007 (1 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/11/20061115090741.shtml), 2 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060915182716.shtml), 3 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061205105051.shtml), 4 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061213162456.shtml))
- Not at Macworld SF (1 (http://www.theage.com.au/news/phones--pdas/iphone-could-be-put-on-hold/2006/12/11/1165685598310.html?from=rss))
- January (1 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061203094854.shtml))
- Macworld San Francisco (0)
While nothing would preclude Apple from announcing a phone at Macworld for a later launch, the evidence for a Macworld launch remains mostly speculative.
Mac Pro
Appleinsider suggested in October (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061025231946.shtml) that an 8-Core Mac Pro was ready to launch as early as November 2006. While this did not take place, an upcoming 2.0GHz quad-core chip (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2326) due in January will be priced at a reasonable $690/chip, similar to the current 2.66GHz dual-core Woodcrest that is currently offered in Mac Pros.
A recent Macscoop report (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061229234528.shtml) claimed that the 8-core Mac would be on track for a January release.
iTV
Apple surprised many when they revealed the iTV in September (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060912161621.shtml) at the "Showtime" media event. The $299 device offers a living room appliance that interfaces your media content to your television. A brief overview was provided, but the final shipping product was not promised until the first quarter of 2007.
Many expect Apple will provide more details of the iTV at Macworld.
Leopard
Leopard was first previewed (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060807161421.shtml) in August, revealing Time Machine, Spaces, Core Animation, and more (http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/).
Over the following months, only a few additional features have been revealed (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061024174114.shtml), and no word of the "secret" features Apple has held back from their public preview.
The latest minor feature revealed has been the use of XAR (http://macgeek.freeflux.net/blog/archive/2006/12/30/macos-x-10-5-new-package-format-xar.html) for Leopard's package format.
Apple would likely demonstrate Leopard again at Macworld San Francisco, but the final release is not expected until "Spring 2007".
New Displays
Some sporadic reports (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061222114846.shtml) of new displays have been distributed, but have been tainted by claims that they represent efforts to intentionally spread false information to rumor sites. As such, these rumors should be viewed with skepticism.
iLife '07
Unlike most Apple updates, the iLife suite has seen regular yearly updates released at the Macworld San Francisco expo. iWork '07 has been said to include (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061011213410.shtml) significant updates to Keynote and Pages as well as the introduction of a new spreadsheet application code named "Lasso".
Video iPod, and Others?
Surprisingly, little attention has been given to the rumored full Video iPod despite clear evidence (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061026073133.shtml) that Apple has been considering such a form factor. The latest word has placed the device in the early 2007 timeframe (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061018143033.shtml).
Three new iPod models were said to be in the works (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/12/20061207145756.shtml) for but not necessarily at Macworld.
Summary
Surprisingly few Macworld San Francisco specific rumors have emerged this year in the months leading up to the event. This final week, however, always represents a busy time for rumors with last minute leaks common.
If you would like to meet up with other MacRumors members, this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=256873) lists others going to the event.
No live Quicktime stream is typically available for the keynote event. Instead, we will provide live coverage of the event at MacRumorsLive.com (http://www.macrumorslive.com/). The keynote takes place at 9am Pacific time on January 9th, 2007.
[[ digg this (http://digg.com/apple/Macworld_San_Francisco_2007_Rumor_Roundup) ]]
rdowns
Apr 21, 12:43 PM
Amazing that a thread on whether or not a person CAN drive a stick shift car has turned into a full blown debate on the merits of automatic vs manual transmissions. Personally I think this argument is similar to the Mac vs PC argument that has gone on for years, ultimately they're different, and a person should be able to use whichever one (or both) they choose for their own personal reasons. In both cases, transmissions and personal computers, they have their good points and their bad points. To each their own...
This is MacRumors. Members will argue everything.
This is MacRumors. Members will argue everything.
mefck
Apr 26, 02:56 PM
Apple, Mac, Macintosh are all generic terms and should not be a compant or product name. :rolleyes:
Some for the name Windows for Microsoft.
I hope you are being sarcastic.
If you are not, please stop comment of things you know nothing about, i.e. trademark law.
Some for the name Windows for Microsoft.
I hope you are being sarcastic.
If you are not, please stop comment of things you know nothing about, i.e. trademark law.
MacMan86
Apr 26, 12:20 PM
EDIT - wrong thread - nothing to see here
ffakr
Nov 25, 05:32 PM
Dell is setting the pricing. It's not about the vendor costs.. it's all about what vendors think customers will pay.
I'm shopping for one to two compution nodes right now and the Dell Quad-Core 1U servers price at a bit cheaper at 1.86GHz [quad] vs. the dual-core system at 3.0GHz. Since 1.86GHz is very near the low end of the processor line, I'd suspect that we'll see the high end quad-cores sell for much more than the high-end Dual-cores. It won't matter what the part costs are [they are much closer]. There's too much extra value to end users who really need to run a lot of threads.
For most people, one Core2 Duo is plenty of horsepower for a long, long time. I'm typing on my new MacBookPro Core2 right now. One downside with the Core2Duo.. the thermal envelope IS higher than the Yonah CoreDuo processors. This thing gets pretty loud when the cpu [and the fans] spin up. It is wicked fast though [15" model with 2.33GHz]
This is one reason why I don't suspect we'll see a Core2Duo in a Mini any time soon. First off, the cpu is way too fast for a system with Integrated grpahics (unless you want a mini computation node). Unfortunately, Apple hasn't listened to me for the last few years so they haven't built in X-Grid support into all their consumer apps. If they had, your Mac MediaCenter could invisibly speed up the rendering of your iMovie project that you do on your iMac or Macbook. ;-) [as I always tell Apple, I hold no IP on potentially good ideas I provide publicly to Apple, go take them]
For most people, the towers are way too fast. I've set up a few dual-dual 2.66GHz machines and they are wicked fast. It really is difficult to slow them down even when you go out of your way to try (like Mathematica, HandBrake, a fork-bomb, and several other apps).
For me at home, the only reason I'd want a Tower would be for the X1900 video option. The Core2Duo iMac is more than powerful enough in every other way (even the occasional video work). I don't loose money when I'm waiting on a computational cycle though (like some of the people here)
At work, it's a different story. I'm looking for a very small computational cluster or One large computational node and 4 CPU cores may not be enough for multiple users.
Quad Dual-Core Opterons are too expensive so the Dual Quad-Core Intel systems would be perfect. The only problem is, at 1.66 and 1.83GHz, I'd likely be better off with 2 dual-core Core2Xeons running at 3.0GHz because they'd retire threads much faster and they run cooler (our chiller is over 20 years old so heat is a big issue). The Quad-Core Xeon chips run back up into the thermal range of the old P4 family chips. My whole excuse for new funding is to replace cluster of 22 single processor cluster nodes (ranging from 750MHz to 1GHz Athlons).
BTW.. it was some stupid ffakr who predicted in the last thread on this topic that we wouldn't see quad-core mac towers at this time. :-)
I still suspect we'll see Quad-Core chips in one or two high end Tower models only and that will happen at MWSF at the earliest. I also think that it is no coincidence that Apple hasn't replaced the old PPC XServe Cluster Node yet. :-) Considering the relatively low part cost if moving from dual to quad cores.. I suspect that Apple will return the XServe Cluster Node and it may be Dual quad-core only.
ffakr
I'm shopping for one to two compution nodes right now and the Dell Quad-Core 1U servers price at a bit cheaper at 1.86GHz [quad] vs. the dual-core system at 3.0GHz. Since 1.86GHz is very near the low end of the processor line, I'd suspect that we'll see the high end quad-cores sell for much more than the high-end Dual-cores. It won't matter what the part costs are [they are much closer]. There's too much extra value to end users who really need to run a lot of threads.
For most people, one Core2 Duo is plenty of horsepower for a long, long time. I'm typing on my new MacBookPro Core2 right now. One downside with the Core2Duo.. the thermal envelope IS higher than the Yonah CoreDuo processors. This thing gets pretty loud when the cpu [and the fans] spin up. It is wicked fast though [15" model with 2.33GHz]
This is one reason why I don't suspect we'll see a Core2Duo in a Mini any time soon. First off, the cpu is way too fast for a system with Integrated grpahics (unless you want a mini computation node). Unfortunately, Apple hasn't listened to me for the last few years so they haven't built in X-Grid support into all their consumer apps. If they had, your Mac MediaCenter could invisibly speed up the rendering of your iMovie project that you do on your iMac or Macbook. ;-) [as I always tell Apple, I hold no IP on potentially good ideas I provide publicly to Apple, go take them]
For most people, the towers are way too fast. I've set up a few dual-dual 2.66GHz machines and they are wicked fast. It really is difficult to slow them down even when you go out of your way to try (like Mathematica, HandBrake, a fork-bomb, and several other apps).
For me at home, the only reason I'd want a Tower would be for the X1900 video option. The Core2Duo iMac is more than powerful enough in every other way (even the occasional video work). I don't loose money when I'm waiting on a computational cycle though (like some of the people here)
At work, it's a different story. I'm looking for a very small computational cluster or One large computational node and 4 CPU cores may not be enough for multiple users.
Quad Dual-Core Opterons are too expensive so the Dual Quad-Core Intel systems would be perfect. The only problem is, at 1.66 and 1.83GHz, I'd likely be better off with 2 dual-core Core2Xeons running at 3.0GHz because they'd retire threads much faster and they run cooler (our chiller is over 20 years old so heat is a big issue). The Quad-Core Xeon chips run back up into the thermal range of the old P4 family chips. My whole excuse for new funding is to replace cluster of 22 single processor cluster nodes (ranging from 750MHz to 1GHz Athlons).
BTW.. it was some stupid ffakr who predicted in the last thread on this topic that we wouldn't see quad-core mac towers at this time. :-)
I still suspect we'll see Quad-Core chips in one or two high end Tower models only and that will happen at MWSF at the earliest. I also think that it is no coincidence that Apple hasn't replaced the old PPC XServe Cluster Node yet. :-) Considering the relatively low part cost if moving from dual to quad cores.. I suspect that Apple will return the XServe Cluster Node and it may be Dual quad-core only.
ffakr
skottichan
Apr 1, 02:00 AM
I assume Safari 5.1 is in this refresh of Lion Preview?
Is it faster? How is memory the resource usage? :cool:I retract my previous statement; the current build seems just as bad as the last and that's on the aforementioned 8GB toting i7 MBP. Even with Flash disabled and harmful scripts blocked, it's a hog capable of eating a combined 3GB or more on its own; the split processes in Activity Monitor just make it look nicer.
Unrelated: does anyone else have a problem keeping their Google Calendars synced in iCal? I hop in and it shows me the local calendars, but I end up having to go into settings and manually recheck my Delegates to get the server-side calendars to trickle back down.
Is it faster? How is memory the resource usage? :cool:I retract my previous statement; the current build seems just as bad as the last and that's on the aforementioned 8GB toting i7 MBP. Even with Flash disabled and harmful scripts blocked, it's a hog capable of eating a combined 3GB or more on its own; the split processes in Activity Monitor just make it look nicer.
Unrelated: does anyone else have a problem keeping their Google Calendars synced in iCal? I hop in and it shows me the local calendars, but I end up having to go into settings and manually recheck my Delegates to get the server-side calendars to trickle back down.
tvguru
Aug 7, 05:14 AM
Aussie waiters must earn a fortune. My sister in law worked as a waitress in the USA and earned over US$1000 per weekend in wages and tips. So what's it like in Oz?
I've learnt you don't really tip here. I gave the pizza guy something like $3. He was the happiest man on the face of the earth. (Until he reached the car again I'm sure)
I've learnt you don't really tip here. I gave the pizza guy something like $3. He was the happiest man on the face of the earth. (Until he reached the car again I'm sure)